Cross-posting the Collection to Wikimedia Commons and the Internet Archive
Our bots are uploading now and will be making progress throughout the next several weeks to finish up the initial upload. To see the progress, check out: Internet Archive | Wikimedia Commons.
Many thanks are owed to Paul Beaudoin for his great work (bot magic, really!) on this project – thanks, Paul. For all of their help and coordination, thanks are also owed to Maarten Dammers, Richard Knipel, and Liam Wyatt on the Wikipedia front; Alexis Rossi, George Oates and Yolanda King at the Internet Archive. Cheers!
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emijrp:
April 12th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Great. A question, how many images are going to be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks for your effort. Regards.
Paul:
April 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Hi emijrp
At writing we have 5,157 primary object images and 4,354 Library & Archives images queued for upload.
GerardM:
April 12th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Thank you for this wonderful news. I have been so bold and blogged about it
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/04/brooklynmuseum-finds-its-w ay-to-work.html
Thanks,
GerardM
ammeveleigh:
April 13th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Could you explain in a little more detail please about how you envisage the workflow for the second bot? I’m particularly interested in the ways in which organisations are starting to revise their own catalogues (and other resources hosted by the organisation) with community-sourced information. When you say “integrate that information back into our collection online” am I correct in thinking you mean you will be incorporating revisions from wikimedia directly into records on http://www.brooklynmuseum.org? And then copying these changes back over to wikimedia, without obliterating any further user-changes made in the meantime? Will you be taking any steps to verify/authenticate user alterations or scan them for ‘usefulness’, or does the ‘crowd’ do this for you?
Shelley Bernstein:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Hi Alexandra,
The answer to your first two questions is yes. One of the interesting things about this project, to me at least, is the idea that we don’t know what kinds of changes are going to be made. In this situation, we know what we published, so we can programatically go in and look at what changed. That’s step one: to see which records are changing and what those changes are and to see how the records are being used to illustrate articles. This will likely be released as a project in our collection labs area. The labs area was setup for experimentation, so this is a perfect project for it.
What I can’t answer yet is your last question. We need to get the data, analyze it and then make some decisions about further integration into the collection records. I will say, our experience with user-generated corrections has been stellar on the Flickr Commons, but we’ve been working with that community for many years and know the ropes and what to expect and we’ve established workflow around that change process. That’s what we are trying to do today with Wikimedia – get started with the community, see what happens and then figure out how best to adjust internally.
In the meantime, so we don’t have stale records on the wiki, bot 2 will push our metadata changes to wikimedia on a regular basis, but it will be respectful to not overwrite community changes. Likely, it will push the change automatically if we have not seen a community change. If the bot sees the field it is trying to update has been changed on the community side, then it will be either flagged for human review or our data will somehow be appended and a notation made. Not sure exactly, but this next stage of the bot process is going to be something we work with the wiki community on so they are happy with how we are making updates to records.
As with everything, I’ll be posting back here as we learn things and will publish lessons learned along the way.
Mary Harrsch:
April 13th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Shelley, I have a large archive of images on Flickr licensed with Creative Commons non-commercial attribution share alike and plan to upload 800X600 derivatives to Wikimedia Commons for all uses with attribution while preserving my commercial rights for my high-resolution originals. Would this scenario work for the Brooklyn Museum’s image collection? I’ve found the most time consuming part of the Wikimedia upload process is the assignment of categories. I assume your bot was written specifically for your project. Do you know of any bot software available to the public that could be used for batch uploading to Wikimedia?
Shelley Bernstein:
April 13th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Hi Mary,
You should contact one of the wikimedians I mentioned in the post – they should be able to help you. As for the bot, yes, we wrote it specifically for us. I don’t know of others, but I think the wiki folks could help with that as well.
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[...] Do you have any other suggestions for techniques which could be (or are) used to establish trust in online archives, or further good examples of the four techniques outlined in archival practice? It strikes me that all four options above rely heavily upon human interpretation and judgement calls, therefore scalability will become an issue with very large datasets (particularly those held outside of an organisational website) which the Archives may want to manipulate machine-to-machine (see this recent blog post and comments from the Brooklyn Museum). [...]
Jonathan:
April 14th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Artists’ books? Like mine:
http://library.brooklynmuseum.org/record=b624893~S2
What happens to them? Are they getting photographed and added to the collection?
Shelley Bernstein:
April 14th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Hi Jonathan,
Contemporary works still fall under copyright, so those are not being cross-posted.
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Elitre:
November 26th, 2012 at 7:50 am
Hi Shelley
Is there a chance that http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/labs/whereinthewiki.php can be updated anytime soon?
Thanks!