Flickr Commons: A Delicate Balance
This is part two in what I think will eventually be a three part series (sorry, Tyler, I realize you are the king of the three part-er, but this requires some room). In the last post on the subject, I was exploring some of the confusion generated from our rights statement. For this post, I’ll be discussing how differences in content can shift the balance in unexpected ways.
When we established an account on Flickr back in 2006 (was it that long ago?), the idea was simple: reach out to make personal connections with our visitors and extend the visit. Our first uploads were centered around our Graffiti exhibition—document an interactive in the gallery, so visitors could see their contribution, share with others and discover how the interactive changed over time. What we found was an incredibly rich community of users who wanted to engage with us and after Graffiti we continued sharing the daily life of the institution in various ways often uploading photos of gee-whiz-behind-the-scenes. For the most part, it was kind of a small town over there - even with 1500 contacts, I could pretty definitively say I knew many of them and easily kept up with the goings-on at their feeds. Though we’d hear from people in all parts of the world, for the most part, this was a local community with many of our most active contributors living right down the street or very close by and visiting often.
Now, jump to two years later. Flickr created The Commons and joining to share our archival material seemed really natural to us, but we were firm—we didn’t want to open a separate account for these photographs. We felt (and still do today) that the content shouldn’t be split. Given the exposure Flickr gives to The Commons, it seemed as if the creation of a second Commons-only account would send the wrong message to our current Flickr community—as if this material was somehow more important than everything else and we just didn’t think that was fair to either the community or the materials to separate it. Flickr understood where we were going with this and graciously created what is now known as the “blended” account, where we could continue uploading daily life and add Commons material to the mix.
Initially, we were worried there would be confusion—would people mistake one type of content for another in a blended account? On the contrary, we’ve found most people are pretty clear on the differences and this has confirmed our general feeling that Flickr is a great place to be where people really take-in and process what is going on. That said, we’ve had some unexpected issues crop up and we wonder if it may be as a result of the type of materials we initially decided to upload to The Commons.

Paris Exposition: night view, Paris, France, 1900. Night view includes the Ponte Alexandre III. Brooklyn Museum Archives, Goodyear Archival Collection (S03_06_01_015 image 2012).
The idea was to use materials we already had on hand and, since Flickr is a global community, begin by uploading materials that were of general interest. We began by uploading shots of expositions in Paris and Chicago and images of Egypt. Two things may have happened as a result of this strategy. First, we quickly found was our small town turned into a big, booming metropolis (something I’m going to talk more about in the next post). Second, it seems as if the people engaging with The Commons materials may have different motivation than our original, more local audience. The Commons audience cares deeply about the material we uploaded, but perhaps are not as invested in who houses it. In turn, we’ve noticed that our original Flickr audience doesn’t seem to respond much to The Commons material we upload (they seem more invested in place and, therefore, the daily-life-of-the-institution photos we still publish). In hindsight, this makes a lot of sense and, as a result, the types of interaction that are happening on the account are just not as balanced as we’d like.

Irving Underhill, American, 1872-1960. Luna Park and Surf Avenue, Coney Island, 1912. Archival inkjet print. Brooklyn Museum/Brooklyn Public Library, Brooklyn Collection. mp1-1996.164.8-B19045.
If we had to do it all over again, we would not change our position regarding the need for the blended account, but I think we might have re-considered what those first Commons uploads would have been. We have a series of glass negatives that depict scenes of old Brooklyn and, looking back, I think this material might have split the difference and engaged both audiences a bit better. I’m leaning in this direction because we have seen some crossover with our Egyptian materials and this makes a lot of sense given that the museum is known for its Egyptian collection—this is content that speaks to both the Commons audience and our local visitors. Then, perhaps, slowly branching out into Paris and Chicago might have brought everyone together as we all grew.
As we pause to consider our next steps, it leaves Deirdre, Angie and me thinking about what kinds of materials to upload in the next round in the hopes that we can create a more delicate balance between these two worlds.
In the next post, I’ll be discussing challenges with the workload.
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December 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Hey Shelley
The National Library of NZ went live on The Commons last Thursday.
We also have a ‘Normal’ account on Flickr that we’ve been running since mid 2007.
Both accounts contain similar material - historical photos from our collections. The main difference is (and will go on being) the licensing; All Rights Reserved (although we give permission to reproduce the images on websites under certain conditions in each image description) and No Known Copyright Restrictions (where we’re encouraging much freer use).
I’m a bit concerned too that we might confuse people, although interestingly I’m already seeing existing contacts join our Commons stream, and new Commons contacts also joining up to our ‘Normal’ stream.
We went live with 120 images, and I tried to get a good geographical spread of New Zealand for (what I assumed would be) the international audience for The Commons. Also, we’re based in Wellington, NZ’s capital city, and this has had some effect on the digitisation of our photo collections (local people wanting local images digitised - e.g. for renovating old houses). Therefore there are heaps of Wellington photos available on our main online image database (another reason to try not to be too Wellington-focused when picking images for The Commons).
But one of the other interesting things I’m seeing is that Wellington has a really active web community - and they’re blogging about The Commons and asking for more Wellington images. So I guess the lesson I’m taking from it is - you can never entirely predict who your audience will be, and it’s awesome that they will tell you (in different kinds of ways) what they’d like to see more of.
Anyway - that’s my piece, based on the 116 hours we’ve been on The Commons! Am really looking forward to seeing what you have to say about workload - I’m grateful that Flickr has just rolled out a tweak to the way you can add contacts, for example, which is speeding up my work in a small but very meaningful way.
Courtney
December 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Hey Courtney,
Congrats on your launch - I was looking through over our Thanksgiving holiday - very cool stuff!! One of the things we’ve noticed is the way the Powerhouse is uploading - same idea, keeping it kind of local (for now) and it seems to really grow community in a good way. As we move forward, I think our own challenge will be to possibly keep it local in a couple of ways - either by uploading the Brooklyn images (slightly problematic because they are not digitized yet, so it’s a project) and possibly integrating better with exhibitions or other things going on in our physical building. At least, I think we may try that and see what (if anything) changes.
The problem we’ve had with the contacts is Flickr has a 3000 contact limit that they seem intent on keeping even for Commons accounts. This has presented a really big problem for us…basically, it’s impossible for us to really get to know these new users because we can’t subscribe to their feeds. As an added issue, we’ve got kind of a icky thing going on - suddenly we’ve friended a bunch of contacts pre-commons and have now had to limit it. Not sure that sends a good message at all to the Flickr community (that we’ve friended some and not others for some reason that they have no clue about and we can’t explain) and there’s nothing we can do about it - a rule is a rule, I guess, but it really has cramped our style a bit!
Thanks for writing (and reading) - it’s going to be great to see how all this progresses.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
this is a very brief message to say that i agree with you, Shelley, regarding how “Scenes of Old Brooklyn” might have engaged both audiences more.
i look forward to your next post.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:43 am
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